First 2011 Sports Outlaw Mock Draft Discussion Thread

Phicinfan

Expert on nothing, opinionated on everything
Administrator
hmmm . . . the titans selected qb gabbert in the 1st and were left with de's sheard, bailey or dt/de ballard to choose from . . . i'm thinking i shouldn't have (and they shouldn't either) bent to guru opinion . . . could have had my choice of de's smith, jordan, watt or kerrigan in the 1st and qb's locker, mallet, kapernick in the 2nd . . . or even waited until the 3rd . . . ;)

Mallet gone already, but yeah you could have had Locker or Kaepernick.
 

bobbeaux

Member
Mallet gone already, but yeah you could have had Locker or Kaepernick.

thanks, but either way, i don't believe a rookie is going to start for the titans this year . . . although a starter at de is needed right now . . . sheard could work out though . . . ;)
 

MNJHNSN

New Member
2.08 - DAL- I really like Cannon, huge specimen, excellent athleticism, would be perfect on the Dallas O line.

2.09 -WAS- Locker would have the year he needs behind McNABB and will become the face of the franchise with the tutilage he would receive.
 

efactor

Coming at you
Went with Ben Ijalana for SF at 2.13. Played OT at Villanova, but is projected as a guard in the NFL. Rachel looks like a bust and Ijalana can step in and give SF the potential for a top OL that will stay together for the next 6-7 years. Staley, Davis, Iupati, Ijalana and either Baas or Heitman.

Not a position of need, but I like everything I read about the kid.
 

Remote Controller

Well-Known Member
Jon Fox ran the 2 back rotation in Carolina, and though he has came out in support of Moreno, he also said that Moreno wasn't the type of back set up to handle all of the load. Mikel falling to this point is a gift that Fox, and Elway won't be able to overlook. The owner is also very used to this team drafting many backs, though mainly later. Too much power and versatilty to overlook, and this back aids both Qb's. He and moreno will be a real rushing force.


--From Sportsline_
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03/26/2011 - Illinois Pro day: With 29 teams at the university's pro day, DT Corey Liuget, LB Martez Wilson and RB Mikel LeShoure were the draws among 11 players working out indoors on FieldTurf. Jets coach Rex Ryan and the Bears' entire defensive staff were among those in attendance. The group on hand saw Liuget (6-foot-2 1/8, 301 pounds) and Wilson (6-3 3/4, 250) have special positional workouts, which will put them in position to potentially move into the late portion of the first round. Wilson proved he can play in space and looked good in coverage. Meanwhile, Liuget's quickness and agility were both apparent for a prospect his size. LeShoure (5/11 3/4, 232) was solid in his position workout and should retain his status as a possible late first-round selection or early second-round choice. All three players stood on their combine numbers. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com
<LI sizcache="0" sizset="222">Full *Mikel Leshoure News Wire

Overview
The University of Illinois hasn't had a lot of elite talent in their back yard in recent years, but keeping Leshoure in his home city has proved a fortuitous move for head coach Ron Zook and the Illini. The junior All-American and first-team All-Big Ten pick re-wrote the record books as a junior, rushing for 1,697 yards (with a 6.0-yard per carry average) and 17 touchdowns. Maybe more impressively, he did not fumble all season.
Zook saw enough potential in Leshoure that he chose not to redshirt him in 2008, though the true freshman only carried the ball 35 times for 126 yards and a touchdown (along with six receptions for 66 yards). He received more opportunities as a sophomore, starting three games, leading the team in rushing, and earning honorable mention All-Big Ten honors with 108-734-5 rushing, 14-177-2 receiving. Leshoure showed some immaturity early in his career, missing time after breaking his jaw in a 2008 fight with a teammate and being suspended for violating team rules early in 2009. He appeared to focus his energy before and during his junior year, however; if he convinces scouts he has matured, his combination of power, vision and exceptional burst to and past the line of scrimmage make Leshoure an easy top 40 pick.
Analysis
Inside running: Powerful back, gets behind his pads when running inside. Runs with lean, and has a small strike zone for which opponents to get a square hit. Good vision to cut away from traffic, very smooth in his cuts. Keeps legs moving after initial contact. Can jump over piles near the line. If the line provides a big hole, he has an elite burst to hit second level at full speed. Excellent ball security, keeps it high and tight. Must avoid stopping to run outside when defenders penetrate, instead taking the couple of yards behind his line. Usually uses his fullback when in the I-formation, but must trust him in short yardage situations. Sells fake handoffs.
Outside running: Thick upper- and lower-body build but he has the vision and quick feet to bounce outside as if he were a smaller back. Exceptional burst makes him capable of turning the corner to break off chunks of yardage. Has patience and vision to take a pitch and find a cutback lane and explode through it. Keeps his pad level low outside, which combined with a low center of gravity and strong legs, make him tough to tackle. Not afraid to push a pile or carry a defender a few yards after initial contact. Does not go out of bounds right away, willing to lower a shoulder to get a couple of extra yards.
Breaking tackles: Very strong runner who is difficult for one defender to bring down. Effective stiff-arm, especially against oncoming defensive backs. Runs over would-be tacklers in the open field due to his strength and forward lean. Can sidestep in the backfield, though he's best as a north-south runner. Lacks great elusiveness in short areas, but can juke a lesser defender in the open if he has some space.
Blocking: Willing blocker who plays with better attitude than technique. Thick and strong, should be effective in blitz pick-up with some coaching, making him a three-down back. Provides a pop when giving linemen help inside. Receiving: Bigger than a typical college receiving back, but is reliable enough to be lined up outside to create positive matchups. Runs inside and outside routes fairly well, but needs to make hard cuts consistently instead of rounding off. Can make a quick cut to avoid a defender or run over a cornerback. Catches the ball with his body on non-swing passes, but has some ability to adjust to wide passes. Intangibles: Suspended for September 2009 matchup against Illinois State for violating team rules. Suffered broken jaw in 2008, losing 17 pounds, reportedly during a fight with teammate Jeff Cumberland. Looks to have matured, however, changing eating habits and putting in weight room work to be lighter and stronger for the 2010 season.
 
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MNJHNSN

New Member
This caused me a great deal of torment. The Defensive Line needs some youth and Austin will provide that and much more. He has always been a 1st Round lock and showed great at the combine. I think he will be a force on the Rams D Line. I was also seriously considering TE here........ Jones in the 1st round and Marvin Austin in the 2nd? Wow, Spags would be drooling.....
 
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Fire

in the hole
With Castonzo and Ballard the Colts attempt shore up two things that they need badly.

Running the football (and giving Peyton time to throw), and stopping the run.
 

Phicinfan

Expert on nothing, opinionated on everything
Administrator
Went out of the box for Philly. Quinten Mickel is a FA, and I am not sure if they plan to re-sign him or not. Secondary killed the Eagles last year, with Smith and now Moore, we have two key positions filled, and they can once again go blitzing crazily to get added pressure.

OL would have been my other target, but the talent wasn't there and Moore was. We can always snag OL later.
 

Arctic Dawgs

Well-Known Member
I think Seattle is really planning to get Hass back. Didn't like the QBs left so DL for Hawks #2 pick
 
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Remote Controller

Well-Known Member
Jon Fox ran the 2 back rotation in Carolina, and though he has came out in support of Moreno, he also said that Moreno wasn't the type of back set up to handle all of the load. Mikel falling to this point is a gift that Fox, and Elway won't be able to overlook. The owner is also very used to this team drafting many backs, though mainly later. Too much power and versatilty to overlook, and this back aids both Qb's. He and moreno will be a real rushing force.


--From Sportsline_
Latest News
03/26/2011 - Illinois Pro day: With 29 teams at the university's pro day, DT Corey Liuget, LB Martez Wilson and RB Mikel LeShoure were the draws among 11 players working out indoors on FieldTurf. Jets coach Rex Ryan and the Bears' entire defensive staff were among those in attendance. The group on hand saw Liuget (6-foot-2 1/8, 301 pounds) and Wilson (6-3 3/4, 250) have special positional workouts, which will put them in position to potentially move into the late portion of the first round. Wilson proved he can play in space and looked good in coverage. Meanwhile, Liuget's quickness and agility were both apparent for a prospect his size. LeShoure (5/11 3/4, 232) was solid in his position workout and should retain his status as a possible late first-round selection or early second-round choice. All three players stood on their combine numbers. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com
<LI sizcache="0" sizset="222">Full *Mikel Leshoure News Wire

Overview
The University of Illinois hasn't had a lot of elite talent in their back yard in recent years, but keeping Leshoure in his home city has proved a fortuitous move for head coach Ron Zook and the Illini. The junior All-American and first-team All-Big Ten pick re-wrote the record books as a junior, rushing for 1,697 yards (with a 6.0-yard per carry average) and 17 touchdowns. Maybe more impressively, he did not fumble all season.
Zook saw enough potential in Leshoure that he chose not to redshirt him in 2008, though the true freshman only carried the ball 35 times for 126 yards and a touchdown (along with six receptions for 66 yards). He received more opportunities as a sophomore, starting three games, leading the team in rushing, and earning honorable mention All-Big Ten honors with 108-734-5 rushing, 14-177-2 receiving. Leshoure showed some immaturity early in his career, missing time after breaking his jaw in a 2008 fight with a teammate and being suspended for violating team rules early in 2009. He appeared to focus his energy before and during his junior year, however; if he convinces scouts he has matured, his combination of power, vision and exceptional burst to and past the line of scrimmage make Leshoure an easy top 40 pick.
Analysis
Inside running: Powerful back, gets behind his pads when running inside. Runs with lean, and has a small strike zone for which opponents to get a square hit. Good vision to cut away from traffic, very smooth in his cuts. Keeps legs moving after initial contact. Can jump over piles near the line. If the line provides a big hole, he has an elite burst to hit second level at full speed. Excellent ball security, keeps it high and tight. Must avoid stopping to run outside when defenders penetrate, instead taking the couple of yards behind his line. Usually uses his fullback when in the I-formation, but must trust him in short yardage situations. Sells fake handoffs.
Outside running: Thick upper- and lower-body build but he has the vision and quick feet to bounce outside as if he were a smaller back. Exceptional burst makes him capable of turning the corner to break off chunks of yardage. Has patience and vision to take a pitch and find a cutback lane and explode through it. Keeps his pad level low outside, which combined with a low center of gravity and strong legs, make him tough to tackle. Not afraid to push a pile or carry a defender a few yards after initial contact. Does not go out of bounds right away, willing to lower a shoulder to get a couple of extra yards.
Breaking tackles: Very strong runner who is difficult for one defender to bring down. Effective stiff-arm, especially against oncoming defensive backs. Runs over would-be tacklers in the open field due to his strength and forward lean. Can sidestep in the backfield, though he's best as a north-south runner. Lacks great elusiveness in short areas, but can juke a lesser defender in the open if he has some space.
Blocking: Willing blocker who plays with better attitude than technique. Thick and strong, should be effective in blitz pick-up with some coaching, making him a three-down back. Provides a pop when giving linemen help inside. Receiving: Bigger than a typical college receiving back, but is reliable enough to be lined up outside to create positive matchups. Runs inside and outside routes fairly well, but needs to make hard cuts consistently instead of rounding off. Can make a quick cut to avoid a defender or run over a cornerback. Catches the ball with his body on non-swing passes, but has some ability to adjust to wide passes. Intangibles: Suspended for September 2009 matchup against Illinois State for violating team rules. Suffered broken jaw in 2008, losing 17 pounds, reportedly during a fight with teammate Jeff Cumberland. Looks to have matured, however, changing eating habits and putting in weight room work to be lighter and stronger for the 2010 season.

Broncos | Scheduled to meet with Mikel LeShoure Thu Apr 14, 03:09 PM
The Denver Broncos are scheduled to meet with University of Illinois RB Mikel LeShoure, reports The Denver Post's Mike Klis.
Our view: LeShoure is one of our favorite RBs in the 2011 NFL Draft class. He has a unique blend of size, power, and speed. LeShoure can take over a game and wears down defenses as the game goes on. He can also be used effectively as a receiver out of the backfield. If selected by the Broncos early in the second-round we feel LeShoure could be the lead back for the team. This would make Knowshon Moreno the complementary back.
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Iwould love to see this happen.
 

MNJHNSN

New Member
Went with Rudolph here as he is a first round talent and way too elite an athlete to pass up for the Ravens who could use a pressure relief valve for Flacco. Rudolph has great hands and is Jermichael Finley like in causing opposition mismatches. Would be a great addition to their potent offence, especially since they grabbed a high quality cb in Rd 1.
 
Ravens went pretty TE heavy last year with Dickson and Pitta. Nice pick for any team to grab Rudolph, but it won't be Baltimore imo.
 

MNJHNSN

New Member
They need more than Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta to replace Todd Heap who wont last much longer if they want to win a chanmpionship. There is no way Rudolph is on the board at that pick, but he is the player with the most upside on the board at present. To me it is a no brainer, pull the trigger on Rudolph and shop Pitta around.... using Rudolph/Heap and later Rudolph/Dickson like NE used Hernandez and Gronk. This o
 

Sgt John

Sith Lord of T&A
We are pretty close to the draft, so we will stop at the end of this round and do a post mortem thread on it
 
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