NFL - Quarterback review - mid 2020 season - already preparing for draft?

Phicinfan

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So, with teams pretty well set in standings, and a clearer view of who will probably make playoffs(except NFC East ... Yuck), lets see what is what at QB.

AFC East
Buffalo
- Josh Allen was all everything, but he is coming back to what he really is. Still He is who they thought.
Dolphins - Fitzgerald was actually playing well, but team has moved to the future in Tua Tagovailoa.
Patriots - Can Newton is not the plan, nor is Stidham. They will need a Qb of the future, or maybe grab FA Qb.
New York Jets - Sam Darnold is not their problem, lack of Wrs and Rb talent is. OL is. Sam is in year 3 of 5 year deal. Do they draft another Qb next year and trade Darnold?

AFC North
Pittsburgh
- Ben Roethlisberger is their starter, and depth is sketchy at best. He is in the first year of his 2 year extension. So looking at future Qb may be a plan.
Baltimore - Lamar Jackson - he is what they thought, and he is solid.
Cincinnati - Joe Burrow - He will be offensive rookie of the year, if he survives it.
Cleveland - Baker Mayfield - Has not been what most expected, he is in 3rd year of 5 year deal. He isn't why they are losing, and not why they are winning either.

AFC South
Tennessee - Ryan Tannehill is set at starter, and in year one of his 4 year extension.
Indianapolis - Philip Rivers is set at starter, in year one of a 2 year deal. Time to look for long term solution could be close.
Houston - Deshaun Watson is set at starter, just recently signed extension, but he has no tools to work with.
Jacksonville - Gardner Minshew is the starter, rumors are they may move on, and he won't start week 9 due to injury. Yeah, need to draft Qb of future here.

AFC West
Kansas City
- Patrick Mahomes - He is a stud, and really makes that offense go
Las Vegas - Derek Carr - is the starter and 2 years left on his current contract
Denver - Drew Lock - he is in his second year, and he shows flashes
Los Angeles Chargers - Justin Herbert - If Joe Burrow wasn't there, or if he breaks down, Justin would be rookie of the year.
 

Phicinfan

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Now lets look at the NFC

NFC East
Philadelphia
- Carson Wentz is the starter, also drafted Jalen Hurts this year - Carson is starter, and has 4 years left on deal
Dallas - Dak Prescott - yes he is hurt, but he is the real starter, and Dalton and Co. are not solution. He was on a FT tag, so FA next year
New York Giants - Daniel Jones is the starter, and they seem okay there. Again, do they draft new Qb? He has 2 years and 1 option year left on deal
Washington - Kyle Allen is the starter, they drafted Dwayne Haskins last year. I think they look at Qb again.

NFC North
Green Bay - Aaron Rogers is the man, and he has Jordan Love to learn from him.
Chicago - Nick Foles is the starter, Mitch Trubisky on last year of his deal. Foles has 2 years left
Detroit - Matthew Stafford is set at starter - signed through 2023
Minnesota - Kirk Cousins is set at starter - UFA in 2023

NFC South
Tampa Bay
- they have the G.O.A.T. - Tom Brady - 2 year deal so UFA in 2022
New Orleans - by all report this is Drew Brees' last year, signed a 2 year deal but he has cap hurt until 2023
Carolina - Teddy Bridgewater is locked in and playing well - signed through 2022
Atlanta - Matt Ryan is locked in, even with change cap hurt will keep him here

NFC West
Seattle
- Russell Wilson is the man
Arizona - Kyler Murray set at starter
Los Angeles Rams - Jared Goff is the starter - signed through 2024 so too pricey to make a change now
San Francisco - Jimmy Garoppolo is locked in or is he? - he is signed through 2022 but dead cap hit is minimal
 

Phicinfan

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High draft pick Qbs:
Trevor Lawrence - Clemson
Justin Fields - The Ohio State
Trey Lance - North Dakota State
Zach Wilson - BYU
Kyle Trask - Florida
Jamie Newman - Georgia
 

Phicinfan

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Current rumors -
Niners - supposedly team realizes Garp ain't it, and may move to get or draft Qb that fits system better
Dolphins - displaying Tua to get value - as they have a ton of picks to draft another Qb if they wish
 

MongerKhan

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I have heard the league impression of Darnold is good. They just understand where he is. Alot think hes not a lost cause yet
 

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Bears (I hope) will be looking for a new qb with an early pick. I'll take Tua for a 1st.
 

Phicinfan

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Now lets look at the NFC

NFC East
Philadelphia
- Carson Wentz is the starter, also drafted Jalen Hurts this year - Carson is starter, and has 4 years left on deal
Dallas - Dak Prescott - yes he is hurt, but he is the real starter, and Dalton and Co. are not solution. He was on a FT tag, so FA next year
New York Giants - Daniel Jones is the starter, and they seem okay there. Again, do they draft new Qb? He has 2 years and 1 option year left on deal
Washington - Kyle Allen is the starter, they drafted Dwayne Haskins last year. I think they look at Qb again.

NFC North
Green Bay - Aaron Rogers is the man, and he has Jordan Love to learn from him.
Chicago - Nick Foles is the starter, Mitch Trubisky on last year of his deal. Foles has 2 years left
Detroit - Matthew Stafford is set at starter - signed through 2023
Minnesota - Kirk Cousins is set at starter - UFA in 2023

NFC South
Tampa Bay
- they have the G.O.A.T. - Tom Brady - 2 year deal so UFA in 2022
New Orleans - by all report this is Drew Brees' last year, signed a 2 year deal but he has cap hurt until 2023
Carolina - Teddy Bridgewater is locked in and playing well - signed through 2022
Atlanta - Matt Ryan is locked in, even with change cap hurt will keep him here

NFC West
Seattle
- Russell Wilson is the man
Arizona - Kyler Murray set at starter
Los Angeles Rams - Jared Goff is the starter - signed through 2024 so too pricey to make a change now
San Francisco - Jimmy Garoppolo is locked in or is he? - he is signed through 2022 but dead cap hit is minimal
Looks like Detroit may be thinking of drafting a QB, New owner has stated Stafford staying would be dependent on what the new HC and GM want
 

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Update post regular season:
AFC East
Buffalo
- Josh Allen
Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa - Showed flashes, but have seen some reports they may look at Qb with the #3 pick
Patriots - Can Newton - can't see him staying
New York Jets - Sam Darnold - they have the #2 pick - could take Qb and deal Darnold for picks or keep Darnold and trade down to fix a very bad team. - new HC will probably drive this

AFC North
Pittsburgh
- Ben Roethlisberger is their starter, and depth is sketchy at best. He is in the first year of his 2 year extension. Mason Rudolph hasn't shown enough, but they won't get a draft pick to get one of the top talents.
Baltimore - Lamar Jackson
Cincinnati - Joe Burrow - Lets hope he comes back as well as he was before
Cleveland - Baker Mayfield

AFC South
Tennessee
- Ryan Tannehill
Indianapolis - Philip Rivers is set at starter, in year one of a 2 year deal. Time to look for long term solution could be close.
Houston - Deshaun Watson
Jacksonville - ????? Welcome to the #1 pick and a new Qb

AFC West
Kansas City
- Patrick Mahomes
Las Vegas - Derek Carr
Denver - Drew Lock - He didn't really improve, may make a move here
Los Angeles Chargers - Justin Herbert
 

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NFC update post regular season:

NFC East
Philadelphia
- Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts - who wins, who goes - cap hit will kill the Eagles - trade may work
Dallas - Dak Prescott - they have to sign him, his FT runs out end of season
New York Giants - Daniel Jones did not look great this year, but with the higher pick he may be safe one more year.
Washington - Alex Smith is the starter, Haskins is gone, and Kyle Allen is the back up - they need to get a long term option here.

NFC North
Green Bay
- Aaron Rogers is the man, and he has Jordan Love to learn from him.
Chicago - Mitch Trubisky is the starter, but his contract is done end of season, Foles will be back up and will stay due to contract
Detroit - Matthew Stafford is starter - signed through 2023 - but New owner has said new HC will have this decision
Minnesota - Kirk Cousins is set at starter - UFA in 2023

NFC South
Tampa Bay
- Tom Brady - 2 year deal so UFA in 2022
New Orleans - by all report this is Drew Brees' last year, signed a 2 year deal but he has cap hurt until 2023
Carolina - Teddy Bridgewater is starter - signed through 2022 - but rumors are they may look to add a QB
Atlanta - Matt Ryan is starter, will be big decision for new GM and HC - as his deal would be costly to move

NFC West
Seattle
- Russell Wilson is the man
Arizona - Kyler Murray set at starter
Los Angeles Rams - Jared Goff is the starter - signed through 2024 so too pricey to make a change now
San Francisco - Jimmy Garoppolo is locked in or is he? - he is signed through 2022 but dead cap hit is minimal - may be time for new Qb.
 

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Updated prior to Superbowl:

AFC East
Buffalo
- Josh Allen
Dolphins
- Tua Tagovailoa - Showed flashes, but have seen some reports they may look at Qb with the #3 pick - and may try to trade for Watson
Patriots - Can Newton - can't see him staying
New York Jets - Sam Darnold - they have the #2 pick - could take Qb and deal Darnold for picks or keep Darnold and trade down to fix a very bad team. - new HC will probably drive this

AFC North
Pittsburgh
- Ben Roethlisberger is their starter, but it looks like he may ride off into the sunset
Baltimore - Lamar Jackson
Cincinnati
- Joe Burrow - Lets hope he comes back as well as he was before
Cleveland - Baker Mayfield

AFC South
Tennessee
- Ryan Tannehill
Indianapolis
- Philip Rivers is retiring, and Brissett is a FA, they need Qb here.
Houston - Deshaun Watson - He is very unhappy, some reports state he is trying to force his way out.
Jacksonville - Fully expect the #1 to be Qb.

AFC West
Kansas City
- Patrick Mahomes
Las Vegas
- Derek Carr
Denver
- Drew Lock - New GM, has stated they will review whole team.......
Los Angeles Chargers - Justin Herbert
 

Phicinfan

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NFC update post regular season:

NFC East
Philadelphia
- Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts - who wins, who goes - cap hit will kill the Eagles - trade may work
Dallas - Dak Prescott - they have to sign him, his FT runs out end of season - this stays red until he is signed or tagged again
New York Giants - Daniel Jones Got HC's backing - and they did well enough drafting one of the top Qbs is kind of out of question.
Washington - Alex Smith is the starter, Haskins is gone, and Kyle Allen is the back up - they need to get a long term option here.

NFC North
Green Bay
- Aaron Rogers is the man, and he has Jordan Love to learn from him.
Chicago - Mitch Trubisky is an FA, Foles isn't the starter they thought.
Detroit - Matthew Stafford is starter - signed through 2023 - but New owner has said new HC will have this decision and they are looking around...
Minnesota - Kirk Cousins is set at starter - UFA in 2023

NFC South
Tampa Bay
- Tom Brady - 2 year deal so UFA in 2022
New Orleans - by all report this is Drew Brees' last year and he will retire, Winston is FA, and Hill hasn't proved himself.
Carolina - Teddy Bridgewater is starter - signed through 2022 - but rumors are they may look to add a QB and HC says Bridgewater needs to improve
Atlanta - Matt Ryan is starter, will be big decision for new GM and HC - as his deal would be costly to move

NFC West
Seattle
- Russell Wilson is the man
Arizona - Kyler Murray set at starter
Los Angeles Rams - Jared Goff is the starter - signed through 2024, however, the HC has started to waffle on him.....
San Francisco - Jimmy Garoppolo is locked in or is he? - he is signed through 2022 but dead cap hit is minimal - may be time for new Qb.
 

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Rumors flying:
Philip Rivers will retire - per report today
Drew Brees expected to retire - multiple reports
Big Ben may be done - sure seemed like it at end of game
Jets, 49ers, Dolphins may want to move away from current starters
 

Phicinfan

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Rumors flying:
Philip Rivers will retire - per report today
Drew Brees expected to retire - multiple reports
Big Ben may be done - sure seemed like it at end of game
Jets, 49ers, Dolphins may want to move away from current starters
Pittsburgh just signed Dwayne Haskins on one year deal - not sure if this is for this year or next
 

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Latest rumors and reports:
Rivers has retired
Brees still expected to retire
Big Ben - unknown if he will retire or team will release - cap hit is prohibitive
Jets - some say they will stick with Darnold, will draft new - will trade for Watson
Deshaun Watson - expected to threaten extended hold out if they don't trade him - Miami and Jets supposedly the targets
Stafford - has agreement by team they will trade him away - they could draft QB of future this year.
Aaron Rodgers - supposedly could be moved as well - has done nothing since loss but throw HC under the bus
 
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Latest rumors and reports:
Rivers has retired
Brees still expected to retire
Big Ben - unknown if he will retire or team will release - cap hit is prohibitive
Jets - some say they will stick with Darnold, will draft new - will trade for Watson
Deshaun Watson - expected to threaten extended hold out if they don't trade him - Miami and Jets supposedly the targets
Stafford - has agreement by team they will trade him away - they could draft QB of future this year.
Aaron Rodgers - supposedly could be moved as well - has done nothing since loss but throw HC under the bus
Ben says "he doesn't care" about his salary in 2021.

Cool. League Minimum for you sir
 
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Two reports from NFL.com sources have Eagles getting calls on Wentz. Dollars to donuts at least one of these is Indy.
 

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So, as we get closer to the Superbowl, who needs a QB.

AFC:
East:
Bills
- No - Josh Allen
Patriots - YES - Cam was a bust as was Stidham
Jets - Maybe? - Do they want to start fresh, or keep Darnold?
Dolphins - No - they already spent to get Tua, I don't think you give up this early
North:
Steelers
- YES - Big ben MAY be back, but behind him is a mess, and his cap hit is too high.
Ravens - No - Lamar Jackson is their Qb
Browns - No - tied to Baker Mayfield
Bengals - No - Joe Burrow looks real, hope he comes back fully healthy
South:
Titans
- No - Ryan Tannehill is the man there
Colts - YES - God yes they need Qb - Rivers retired, Brissett is FA, just have Eason.
Texans - Maybe? - they are tied to Deshaun Watson, but he wants out, very, very badly
Jaguars - YES - Welcome to the NFL Trevor Lawrence
West:
Chiefs
- No - Patrick Mahomes is the man
Raiders - No - Derek Carr is solid, but rumors are flying he may get traded - I don't believe it.
Broncos - Maybe? - Not sure they are sold on Drew Lock
Chargers - No - Justin Herbert looked awesome

NFC:
East:
Football Team
- YES - Dwayne Haskins is gone, Alex Smith was serviceable, but FA, Kyle Allen was bad, and Heinicke is FA
Giants - No - seemed locked into Daniel Jones
Eagles - No - currently they have Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts - even if one gets dealt they are fine.
Cowboys - No - They can't be stupid enough to let Dak Prescott go.
North:
Packers
- No - Aaron Rodgers - nuff said
Bears - YES - Trubisky is FA, and Foles is a back up
Vikings - No - Kirk Cousins - trade rumors flying, but I will only believe it when I see it.
Lions - No - Just got Goff, and they are stuck for now.
South:
Saints
- YES - Brees is going to retire, Taysom Hill is there, they may want to resign Jameis Winston but in cap hell right now
Buccaneers - No - have at least one more year with Tom Brady
Falcons - No - Matt Ryan is there, and is too costly to move IMO - may draft for future though.
Panthers - YES - I keep hearing how team was not happy with Teddy Bridgewater
West:
Seahawks
- No - Russell Wilson
Rams - No - just got Matthew Stafford
Cardinals - No - Kyler Murray is the man there
49ers - Maybe? - I hear they may be ready to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo

FA Qbs are crap - Ryan Fitzpatrick may be the best available
Qbs in draft
Trevor Lawrence Clemson - Jaguars
Zach Wilson BYU
Justin Fields Ohio State
Trey Lance North Dakota State
Mac Jones Alabama
Kyle Trask Florida
 

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Football Team - YES - Dwayne Haskins is gone, Alex Smith was serviceable, but FA, Kyle Allen was bad, and Heinicke is FA

Kyle Allen
45/67 for 480 yards and 4 td's in 2 games, then rushing for another. He had 1 pick. He smoked Dallas in his win and had a 4th qtr. comeback against the Giants that fell short by one point with :36 seconds left in the game when they decided to go for the win and go for 2. (attempt failed) Riverboat Ron could have tied it up and played in overtime. He was anything but bad.
 
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