Which Qb is the best fit....where?

Phicinfan

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Okay, talk is really getting heated now, due to two things recently, well actually three.

1) Senior bowl is over, and we got a much better view of the "other" draftable Qbs in this draft, in other words NOT Burrows or Tua.
2) Rivers will NOT be the Qb in LAC land.
3) By a few reports I have read and seen, the plan this year was set for Brady to do the full FA look, and then all parties decide what best fit is.

Here is the issues we are facing.

Top Qbs in draft as most sites have listed:
1) Joe Burrows
2) Tua Tagovailoa
3) Justin Hebert
4) - 6) Jordan Love, Jake Fromm and Jacob Eason

Top FA Qbs - as they sit now
1) Tom Brady
2) Drew Brees - he has stated retirement or Saints...
3) Philip Rivers
4) Teddy Bridgewater
5) Jameis Winston
6) Taysom Hill - Restricted FA - so will come with pick cost depending on tender given
7) Ryan Tannehill
8) Marcus Mariota
9) Case Keenum

Players that may be available by trade or due to being cut:
1) Andy Dalton
2) Derek Carr
3) Cam Newton
4) Joe Flacco
5) Nick Foles
6) Josh Rosen

So where do they all go?
Cincinnati will draft QB - so I don't see them ponying up for one of the big vets. Letting Andy go for value though could help rebuild
Miami - is drafting QB, with Fitz being the place holder
LAC - any guess - they could draft - high enough to get Hebert at least - or they could go FA - Brady? Bridgewater?
Carolina will be a key team - do they let Cam go, get the savings, and start fresh with new owner and coach? To me THIS is the perfect place for Taysom Hill - he is Cam clone.
New Orleans - they can't keep all three - So if Brees retires - I see them trying to keep Bridgewater and Hill, of Brees plays I think Bridgewater is gone. Look for first round tender on Hill
Tampa Bay - ??? - They are high enough they might snag an Hebert if he drops. Do they like Love or Fromm or Eason??? Or try to get Cam or Bridgewater?
Tennesee - If I am Tenn. I do NOT pay big money for Tannehill. I would much, much rather have Dalton or Carr if they come free. Rivers also an option. Brady?
Indianapolis - I can see a big push by Indy to get Rivers, trade Brissett and then draft a developmental guy like Love or Fromm or Eason
Jacksonville - is Minshew the answer, nope. Can he care take while you draft future? Maybe. I am not sure they can afford to cut Foles, so they may just be stuck as is.
Las Vegas - this is the one I just don't get. I keep hearing they will push for Brady...Why? They are NOT that close to getting to playoffs or Superbowl, and would be better off continuing the rebuild for future. Draft next Qb if you don't like Carr, but don't waste money on Brady who is short term at best and will cost $$$$$$$
New England - assuming Tom goes, they need long term fix.

As I see it, there are only three first round Qbs - Burrows, Tua and Hebert. Of those three, Burrows is the only one IMO that will start year one. Due to need alone. Hebert will need time to develop more, and Tua won't be healthy enough IMO.

So this could be the most interesting FA QB period we have seen in some time. I wonder if someone will push the envelope and push for Dak from Dallas?
 

Remote Controller

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I don't know, Indy has the developmental guy in Kelly already. He lit up the preseason last year. I could see them taking a vet for two years and turning it over to Kelly.
 

Phicinfan

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I don't know, Indy has the developmental guy in Kelly already. He lit up the preseason last year. I could see them taking a vet for two years and turning it over to Kelly.
I am pretty sure they released him again, and he has a ton of baggage
 

Phicinfan

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Yup, he is still there per a couple of sites. Still don't think he is the answer though. Just me I guess.
 

Walter34

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The Bears are in play for one of the guys listed in the opening post - no sure who but likely one of the lower tier guys.

Also, I don't think Tyson Hill has shown that he can be a consistent QB. He is a great athlete and gadget player but what have we seen really? Any team would be foolish to give a 1st for him. He is probably best on a big time creative offence like the Saints or KC. For them he is worth 5-7M a year.
 

Phicinfan

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The Bears are in play for one of the guys listed in the opening post - no sure who but likely one of the lower tier guys.
I can see Dalton or Mariota there, I actually like Mariota in that offense with his ability to run.

Also, I don't think Tyson Hill has shown that he can be a consistent QB. He is a great athlete and gadget player but what have we seen really? Any team would be foolish to give a 1st for him. He is probably best on a big time creative offence like the Saints or KC. For them he is worth 5-7M a year.
I don't disagree. I think most are going by what HC and other coaches for N.O. are saying on him. I have seen reports for a few years that they think he could be the heir apparent for Brees. But no, I would not give up a 1st rounder for him.
 

Phicinfan

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The plot thickens, Brees has instagramed he will be back for 2020, but still needs a deal with N.O.
 

Remote Controller

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The Bears are in play for one of the guys listed in the opening post - no sure who but likely one of the lower tier guys.

Also, I don't think Tyson Hill has shown that he can be a consistent QB. He is a great athlete and gadget player but what have we seen really? Any team would be foolish to give a 1st for him. He is probably best on a big time creative offence like the Saints or KC. For them he is worth 5-7M a year.
He is over 30 and only thrown 13 passes. He was oft injured in college. I say they work a cap friendly deal with Brees, use Hill considerably more this season and try to make some hay with teddy.
 

Walter34

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Teddy is likely looking for 20M. Brees 30M? and then Hill, who knows? The saints can't afford > 50M for QB.

Unless Teddy gets a starting job I think he goes elsewhere for both money and opportunity.
 

Phicinfan

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Teddy is likely looking for 20M. Brees 30M? and then Hill, who knows? The saints can't afford > 50M for QB.

Unless Teddy gets a starting job I think he goes elsewhere for both money and opportunity.
I don't see anyway they keep all three unless Teddy and Brees take team friendly deals. They will 1st round tender Hill, which will lock him in at around $2-$4 million. He will become the back up and then Brees will make a deal. So I would expect Teddy to be elsewhere.
 

mudloggerone

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That's all well and good but it depends on Teddy who showed no sign of wanting out of New Orleans last season. He turned down what was expected to be a starting job to stay on the sidelines with the Saints. Now he had a very good 5-6 weeks filling in for Brees and many say he is now worth $30M. Is he? Not in my opinion but if he wants to start he'll be gone and it'll be for more than the $20M figure I see tossed around on this thread. Hill is the future of this team whether that's a good thing long term or not we'll have to see. Watching every play last year, real games and preseason, Hill is much, much better than Bridgewater.
 

Walter34

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Mudd - you are right in that someone will overpay for Teddy. I like him but see him as a bottom half of the league starter, not in the same level as the "30M QBs". But, someone will pay him a lot. Maybe 4 year, 100M or so.

Hill is a tremendous athlete and highly effective as the Swiss army knife big play guy for his 5-7 touches a game. I don't know what he is capable of as a starting qb taking 50 snaps a game. That is the big question with him. No team would sign or trade for him as a starter and I doubt he gets nibbles on a 1st round tender. I like the guy but just don't know if he can be an every down QB
 

Phicinfan

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Mudd - you are right in that someone will overpay for Teddy. I like him but see him as a bottom half of the league starter, not in the same level as the "30M QBs". But, someone will pay him a lot. Maybe 4 year, 100M or so.

Hill is a tremendous athlete and highly effective as the Swiss army knife big play guy for his 5-7 touches a game. I don't know what he is capable of as a starting qb taking 50 snaps a game. That is the big question with him. No team would sign or trade for him as a starter and I doubt he gets nibbles on a 1st round tender. I like the guy but just don't know if he can be an every down QB
Think young Cam or Josh Allen but with much better accuracy
 
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