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Who cares? Vick was never a good QB. The only arguement for it was his athletic ability which will soon go down hill if it hasn't already. I don't care if the commish gives him 50 games or zero games. He'll never be the "face" of a franchise again and it's not like he some humanitarian now and...

Maurice Morris couldn't beat out Shaun Alexander or Julius Jones. I wouldn't worry about him taking carries away from Kevin Smith.

Kevin Smith. He has room to improve. Grant is as good as he's going to get. He's already overachieved. Grant at Notre Dame was horrible. He worked on some things to improve, good for him. Now he will be an average back until GB drafts a stud. Grant may do better than last year, but he'll never...

That's funny. One year I had a guy who was so bad off that part of his offer was that he would cut my grass for a year.

But why? Injury? So we're predicting injury now? Good luck with that. Rodgers is not exactly what I'd call an NFL tough guy. If you eliminate injury out of the discussion, which IMO you have to because no one can predict injury, we're asking who will digress. You argue superbowl loser, blah...

How much more can he improve? 4000yrds and 28 TDs. Are you expecting 4500-5000yrds and 35+TDs? I don't see it. Who's going to handle the uptick in yrds and tds from a WR standpoint.

Interesting. We're talking about injury risk with Warner and saying that Rodgers is the safe bet? Prior to last year, Rodgers played in like 3 games and got hurt in 2 of them. I like both of these guys and I like both of their #1 Wrs in Fitz and Jennings. I'll take Warner just because I like Q...

fine. 2 people. The point is most people won't give a big contract to a guy that is 32 years old and can only go downhill, but most would give it to a guy who is 26 and can still improve.

Then we just differ. I would no way take Randy Moss from age 32 to 35 over Jennings from age 26-29. I can't believe anyone would, but I guess you proved me wrong as there is at least one person who would take Moss at age 32-35 over Jennings at age 26-29.

wait until his next deal.

You repeat my point and then make a statement that doesn't fit. This is actual football not ffl. You said you'd take any of the WRs you mentioned ahead of Jennings. One of the names you listed above Jennings was Moss. Moss may finish better than Jennings this year, but what about 2 or 3 years...

Moss can be taken out of this discussion. He old. I'm not saying he can't play. I'm saying GB paid Jennings for what he is - a young stud who may not have reached his full potential yet. GB did not sign him based on ffl redraft strategy.

Oh it's possible for sure. They didn't draft Brown in the 1st for no reason. Indy is notorious for viewing their RBs as expendable. Faulk, James and now Adai. Adai will not be getting a new contract when it's up and if they think Brown fits better than Adai, they'll use him now. With Adai being...

I will table this until the season is rolling. I don't really care if the Arizona Cardinals don't do well this year as long as Fitz is playing from behind making sick grabs all year. I'll take it. We can revisit once the season is rolling and Fitz is ahead of Moss.

You're on the Moss bandwagon until next year when Fitz is whipping Moss. :thrash: I know you can't really take his 4 game stretch and say he'll do that for 16 straight weeks. However, you also can't assume Randy Moss will have his best season ever either when he's coming off of a down year and...

Make up your mind, ER. I'm sticking to my story. It doesn't matter who is throwing the ball, Fitz will come down with it. Moss HOPES for a comeback and maybe he'll have it and be able to compete with Fitz. Fitz will just do what he does and match Moss. If you just want to look at best case...

A day earlier, Brady said he didn't know how long it would take to shake the rust off. Him practicing when he knows there is zero chance of him taking a shot right on his knee is something completely different vs. playing against an opponent and not knowing what they will do.

I thought that early, before they drafted Maclin. Once they drafted Maclin, I considered them out of the possibility. I remembered that he was from Philly and that he actually played with McNabb in College for a year or two.

ER, you're not alone on your faith in Chris Henry. I too think he will be good this year and probably end up as the best WR on that team. I'll go after him if the price is right. His talent is there. I may lose out if he does something dumb again, but risk/reward is a no brainer.

Why? Because Moss says so. :shake: